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08:49 <xcamel> 'lo GG
08:49 <GaelicGrime> 'llo xcamel :)
09:00 <xcamel> and TGG
09:00 <_Danilo_> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2010/msg00009.html
09:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2erq9za> (at lists.debian.org)
09:18 <quail> have you signed the petition against software patents http://apps.softwarefreedom.com.au/patents/
09:22 <bastik> too less Australians signed it's below 1000
09:26 <quail> TheGasGiant: howdy mate, how you been?
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10:09 <dashs> Commandline boinc ignores the pref for max_cpus, why?
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10:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
10:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 69.6°F / 20.9°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 1.7mph / 2.7km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds...becoming light southeast winds after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper (1 more message)
10:47 <CoderForLife> &more
10:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 80s. South winds around 5 mph.;
10:47 <CoderForLife> hello all
10:47 <CoderForLife> I snuck out of bed and am sitting at my desk
10:48 <CoderForLife> feels strange to be so upright
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11:16 <dashs> Commandline boinc ignores the pref for max_cpus (linux), why?
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14:22 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319
14:22 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 87.2°F / 30.7°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. High in the upper 80s. South wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 70s. South wind 10 to 15 (1 more message)
14:23 <wdsmia_> &more
14:23 <Romulus> wdsmia_: mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Hot and humid. High in the lower 90s. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Highest heat index readings 103 to 108 in the afternoon.;
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14:53 <CoderForLife> hmm still quite a bit ouchy
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15:16 <CoderForLife> stay young, PovAddict
15:17 <PovAddict> deja vu
15:17 <CoderForLife> all over again
15:18 <CoderForLife> or that old feeling of vuja de - knowing your someplace you've *never* been before
15:18 <CoderForLife> er you're
15:20 <CoderForLife> (thank you, George Carlin)
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15:21 <CoderForLife> moo
15:21 <PovAddict> I just had a power outage
15:21 <efc> moo
15:21 <CoderForLife> was it a planned outage?
15:21 <PovAddict> and now I smell something... wonder if my UPS is literally burning
15:21 <CoderForLife> may be way under voltage
15:23 <PovAddict> I heard some clicks from the UPS... will take a look
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15:25 <CoderForLife> oops
15:25 <CoderForLife> one click too many
15:27 <efc> &roulette
15:27 <Romulus> efc: *click*
15:28 <CoderForLife> maybe the UPS was playing
15:29 <efc> His seems to get used a lot
15:29 <efc> I'd read somewhere that the batteries are only good for a couple of complete discharges
15:32 <efc> I'd like to get one with external terminals
15:32 <efc> hook it up to a bank of deep-cycle batteries
15:32 <efc> And be ready for TEOTWAWKI
15:35 <efc> I think it would still be able to charge them, it would just take forever
15:35 <CoderForLife> are you suddenly a believer?
15:36 <CoderForLife> one of *those*?
15:36 <efc> I never said I wasn't.. Just that you were one of them..
15:36 <CoderForLife> heh
15:37 <efc> looked at a place yesterday. not really far out enough for a survivalist.
15:37 <CoderForLife> survivalists are far out
15:39 <efc> It had a catfish pond, with some substantial catfish
15:39 <CoderForLife> good for barter
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15:41 <CoderForLife> would get old as a food source
15:42 * CoderForLife continues Coding while post op recovery continues
15:43 <CoderForLife> still pretty ouchy today - but this is only day 2 afterwards
15:48 <efc> What got op'd ?
15:48 <efc> Nothing you don't have two of, I hope
15:50 <CoderForLife> hernia, right side - fortunately I don't have a spare hernia
15:50 <CoderForLife> just another step along the road to a Better Me
15:51 <CoderForLife> as I said here before - trying to get all these things done before the health care system collapses
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16:02 <CoderForLife> looks like Pov is down for awhile
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16:07 <efc> I'm sure that you'll get a good death panel.
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16:11 <CoderForLife> I have no worries - when she's elected Sarah will take care of those for me
16:26 <CoderForLife> just had a power drop-out here
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16:50 <CoderForLife> din-din
17:21 <CoderForLife> back
17:22 <TheGasGiant> mornin' folks
17:23 <TheGasGiant> syncing in progress
17:24 <CoderForLife> hey Paul
17:25 <TheGasGiant> syncing complete
17:25 <TheGasGiant> hola Don
17:25 <CoderForLife> how b u
17:25 <TheGasGiant> not 2 bad
17:26 <CoderForLife> I'll accept that as a "good report"
17:26 <CoderForLife> I'm mending
17:26 <TheGasGiant> seeing a surgeon about my hernia in 10 days
17:26 <CoderForLife> had hernia surgery Thursday
17:27 <TheGasGiant> open cut or "pin hole"
17:27 <CoderForLife> open
17:27 <CoderForLife> right side, inguinal
17:27 <TheGasGiant> all ouch I suppose
17:27 <TheGasGiant> lol..me too
17:27 <CoderForLife> pretty ouchy ATM
17:27 <TheGasGiant> eeek
17:28 <CoderForLife> at first I felt like they had mistakenly sewn my chin to my knee
17:28 <TheGasGiant> how long are you off w#$^ for
17:28 <TheGasGiant> lol
17:28 <CoderForLife> a couple of weeks
17:28 <TheGasGiant> wow
17:28 <CoderForLife> planning to go back on the 23rd
17:28 <CoderForLife> at least part time
17:29 <CoderForLife> in the mean time, I'm laying here in bed Coding like a fiend
17:29 <TheGasGiant> any specifc excercises you need to do in the mean time
17:29 <CoderForLife> no - don't drive for a week, don't lift anything over 15 pounds
17:29 <TheGasGiant> brb...wife needs comp for minute
17:29 <CoderForLife> k
17:29 <CoderForLife> hb
17:35 <TheGasGiant> b
17:35 <CoderForLife> wb
17:35 <TheGasGiant> a long minute
17:36 <CoderForLife> I can breathe again
17:36 <TheGasGiant> what triggered you to get your hernia done?
17:36 <CoderForLife> becoming an exercise hinderance - had it for a long time - able to see it with the fat off
17:37 <TheGasGiant> ahh...yes I can relate to some of that
17:37 <TheGasGiant> so what're you coding atm?
17:38 <CoderForLife> back on my big project
17:38 * TheGasGiant holds breath until CFL/TG tells me what the 'big project' is....
17:39 <CoderForLife> just got a basic feature running this afternoon - onto the next step
17:39 * TheGasGiant thinks CFL is a very slow coder or it is a very BIG project.... :p
17:40 <CoderForLife> I have a 2x full time j@%
17:41 <TheGasGiant> lol
17:41 <CoderForLife> the only time I can do my stuff is in-between w@#% and homew@#%
17:41 <CoderForLife> and then there's taking care of the house, etc
17:41 <TheGasGiant> and full time for the next 2 weeks
17:42 <CoderForLife> pretty much - although I have plenty of homew@#% while on disability
17:42 <CoderForLife> but this is major Go Time for my stuff
17:42 <TheGasGiant> hmmm....disability, makes it sound worse
17:43 <CoderForLife> it is a short term disability insurance claim
17:43 <TheGasGiant> interesting...how much 'out of pocket' will you be in the end?
17:43 <CoderForLife> I use my sick days, then insurance kicks in a pays 100% of my salary each day for a period of time
17:43 <CoderForLife> I'm vested after 10 years, so it's 100%
17:44 <TheGasGiant> ahh...salary insurance we call it
17:44 <CoderForLife> at some point it would turn into long term disability
17:44 <CoderForLife> I forget how long that is
17:45 <CoderForLife> I like "salary insurance" rather than STD =)
17:45 <efc> if we get sick the co. sends a guy out to shoot us
17:45 <TheGasGiant> lol...moo eddie
17:45 <CoderForLife> you southerners are just so practical
17:46 <TheGasGiant> my boss would like to shoot us
17:46 <CoderForLife> any reason given?
17:47 <TheGasGiant> but then again, I'd like to shoot my boss..so the feeling is mutual
17:47 <TheGasGiant> he just sees the workforce as a profit reduction and not and assest to make money...
17:47 <TheGasGiant> 'an'
17:48 <CoderForLife> he sounds like an assest
17:48 <TheGasGiant> whinges and moans all the time about how much salaries are
17:48 <CoderForLife> just about the ass-est one I've heard of in awhile
17:48 <TheGasGiant> a very big ass
17:49 <CoderForLife> souch is the cost of gettihg w@#% done
17:49 <TheGasGiant> true..and doing it well with good people
17:49 <CoderForLife> er such
17:50 <CoderForLife> the old iron triangle - do you want it good, fast or cheap? - choose one
17:50 <TheGasGiant> you mean I can't have them all!
17:50 <TheGasGiant> how about 2 out of 3
17:51 <CoderForLife> I guess it would depend on your definitions
17:52 <TheGasGiant> i'm going to grab some b/fast...bb shortly
17:52 <CoderForLife> k
17:52 <CoderForLife> hf
17:52 <CoderForLife> I'll be Coding here
17:55 <TheGasGiant> still coding in java?
17:55 * CoderForLife will actually be Coding on his local laptop, not looking continually at the remore connection to his desktop
17:56 <CoderForLife> oh
17:56 <CoderForLife> um
17:56 <CoderForLife> this is mostly PHP right now
17:56 <TheGasGiant> ahh web interaction?
17:56 <CoderForLife> I'll be coding soon enough in several languages
17:56 <TheGasGiant> country and western?
17:57 <CoderForLife> right now for this phase - all web interaction
17:58 <CoderForLife> yeah - you got it exactly =P
17:58 <TheGasGiant> got the DB side of it worked out?
17:58 <CoderForLife> how'd you guess?
17:58 <CoderForLife> oh yes - db worked out long ago
17:59 <TheGasGiant> your own or a buy in?
17:59 <CoderForLife> MySQL and SQLlite DBs
17:59 <TheGasGiant> no version changes that screw things up in the mean time?
18:00 <CoderForLife> of course not =)
18:00 <TheGasGiant> lol...
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18:04 <TheGasGiant> i see dnetc web site is unreachable atm...
18:06 <CoderForLife> couldn't prove it by me - wazzat?
18:06 <TheGasGiant> lol...forgot you aren't boincing any more
18:07 <CoderForLife> I am - minimally
18:07 <CoderForLife> http://www.dnetc.net/ ?
18:07 <Romulus> Title: DNETC@HOME (at www.dnetc.net)
18:07 <TheGasGiant> yup
18:07 <CoderForLife> reachable
18:09 <TheGasGiant> hmm..that's odd
18:10 <CoderForLife> 89.74.132.50
18:10 <TheGasGiant> when i use this http://dnetc.net/index.php it doesn't work
18:10 <Romulus> Title: DNETC@HOME (at dnetc.net)
18:10 <CoderForLife> Rommie is happy
18:10 <TheGasGiant> but when i used the link you provided it's fine
18:11 <CoderForLife> your link works for me and Rommie
18:12 <TheGasGiant> worked for me now as well
18:12 <TheGasGiant> go figure
18:12 <CoderForLife> kwitcherbitchin =)
18:12 <TheGasGiant> mofo ;)
18:12 <CoderForLife> heh
18:18 <CoderForLife> how's winter in Melbourne treating you?
18:19 <TheGasGiant> blue sky today..but chilly
18:19 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml
18:19 <efc> rather nice here for once
18:19 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h ; Unknown. High:44 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:37 ° F.; Clear. High:55 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F.;
18:19 <CoderForLife> Pov is struggling a bit in AR
18:19 <TheGasGiant> must get plumber in to clean out storm water drains
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18:20 <CoderForLife> power is a problem for him
18:20 <TheGasGiant> we're OK for power...and the water storages are the highest they've been for 3 yrs
18:21 <TheGasGiant> but still only 37%
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18:21 <TheGasGiant> http://www.melbournewater.com.au/content/water_storages/water_report/zoom_graph.asp
18:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3yyovjr> (at www.melbournewater.com.au)
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18:23 <TheGasGiant> between climate change and population growth the pressure on storages is a problem - in both the short term and long term
18:23 <CoderForLife> TEOTWAWKI - right, efc?
18:24 * TheGasGiant scratches head
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18:24 <CoderForLife> &google TEOTWAWKI
18:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TEOTWAWKI - Wiktionary: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikt:TEOTWAWKI>; Survivalnet.org, where survivalism rocks! - TEOTWAWKI: <http://www.survivalnet.org/survivalism/TEOTWAWKI.htm>; TEOTWAWKI Blog: <http://teotwawkiblog.blogspot.com/>; Three Views of TEOTWAWKI: <http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/three-views-of-teotwawki/>; SurvivalBlog.com Glossary: (1 more message)
18:26 <TheGasGiant> ahhh
18:27 <CoderForLife> I'm expecting financial collapse
18:27 <CoderForLife> but I'm just a pessimist
18:27 * TheGasGiant thinks there is an undercurrent of another 'secret' organisation within members of the #boinc folks
18:28 <TheGasGiant> lol...I'm expecting that a few people are going to get very rich during the financial collapse
18:28 <TheGasGiant> the dead cat bounce hasn't occurred yet
18:29 <TheGasGiant> we'll have to start the AIFF organisation
18:30 <CoderForLife> heh
18:31 <TheGasGiant> coffee...brb
18:33 <CoderForLife> k
18:38 <TheGasGiant> ahh..coffee...but the milk tastes a little wrong
18:43 <CoderForLife> roo milk?
18:43 <TheGasGiant> man made I believe...
18:44 <TheGasGiant> originally from cows, but through many industrial processes before it gets to my fridge
18:45 <CoderForLife> mooving through the processes
18:45 <TheGasGiant> lol...good one
18:46 <CoderForLife> I tried to say "homoogenized" but couldn't spell it
18:46 <TheGasGiant> ROFL
18:46 <TheGasGiant> i'm going to hit the road and get ready for the day
18:46 * CoderForLife reckons that's close enough
18:47 <CoderForLife> OK - get chatting - I need to focus on Coding - retirement is waiting for me
18:47 <CoderForLife> huh?
18:47 <TheGasGiant> ...and me ;)
18:47 <CoderForLife> thx for chatting
18:47 <TheGasGiant> thank you
18:47 * CoderForLife looks at his fingers
18:47 <TheGasGiant> have a great evening coding
18:47 <CoderForLife> tc
18:48 <TheGasGiant> catch u l8r
18:48 <CoderForLife> cya
18:48 <TheGasGiant> cya...and awaaay
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20:14 <CoderForLife> gn all
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22:37 <PovAddict> &seen CoderForLife
22:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: CoderForLife was last seen in #boinc 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <CoderForLife> gn all
22:40 <efc> moo
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22:46 <PovAddict> moo
22:47 <PovAddict> two problems almost completely diagnosed, fix will take longer
22:49 <PovAddict> strange smell from computer room, eventually taking over the house (or so my family says, they have better nostrils than me)... tracked down to the UPS with 80% certainty
22:51 <PovAddict> no strong smell inside computer case, nothing obviously burst or smoking
22:51 <PovAddict> smell started shortly after the brief power outage ended
22:52 <PovAddict> and it *seemed* to smell worse under the desk closer to the UPS... so all arrows point to it
22:53 <efc> You would make a good beta tester for UPSs
22:54 <PovAddict> next problem
22:54 <PovAddict> my ear blockage+pain diagnosed to be an infection
22:56 <PovAddict> so I have to put these drops in my ear every 8 hours, and take a brick-sized pill every 12
22:57 <efc> Yuck. Well, at least you know what it is.
23:00 <PovAddict> it's absolutely terrible! I have to *wake up at 7am* to get my ear canal wet, when usually I sleep till noon
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23:05 <PovAddict> back to the electronic smell... my dad says it smelled like electrolyte
23:08 <PovAddict> he fixed computers back when you had to (and could!) desolder chips by hand and put new ones in, and when those 'computers' took up a room
23:09 <PovAddict> so I'm sure he learned the characteristic smells of several electronic components on fire
23:10 <PovAddict> what are the difficulies/dangers of disassembling a UPS?
23:15 <efc> charged caps is all, I'd guess
23:19 <PovAddict> step 1duh: disconnect all external cables
23:20 <PovAddict> step 2duh: remove battery
23:21 <PovAddict> step 3: tear apart the damn thing using your bare hands!
23:22 <PovAddict> hmm that doesn't sound right
23:23 <PovAddict> efc: how charged could charged caps be?
23:25 <PovAddict> would an UPS have a capacitor supporting 240v directly? and how big would such a thing be?
23:26 <efc> the big ones would be filter caps, maybe 2 cm high?
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23:34 <PovAddict> mostly worried about how much voltage could exist in there once disassembled, unplugged and no batt?
23:36 <efc> I've heard old TVs can hold a charge for weeks.
23:36 <efc> Not sure if thats in the caps or what.
23:36 <efc> But you can discharge them to be sure, use a 1 M ohm resistor or a screwdriver or something
23:37 <PovAddict> just
23:37 <PovAddict> just wondering if I could stumble upon a cap
23:38 <PovAddict> just wondering if I could stumble upon a cap with the full 220v in
23:38 <PovAddict> or if the *battery* voltage is the worst I can find
23:38 <efc> The filters would be at battery, I think
23:40 <efc> Are you hoping to fix it? Or just autopsy?
23:45 <PovAddict> if it's 'just a capacitor', maybe we could fix it
23:46 <PovAddict> otherwise, autopsy, but not breaking anything, so APC support can take their turn in trying to fix it
23:47 <efc> a blown electrolytic cap is pretty obvious
23:47 <efc> might be able to fix, if it didn't take anything else out
23:49 <PovAddict> we did nothing yet
23:50 <PovAddict> I just took the battery off to find evidence of magic smoke having come out, but it looked OK
23:50 <PovAddict> no screw unscrewed from unit yet
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